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[转贴] The End of Evangelion中的恐吓信(图多杀猫)   [复制链接]

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沙拔 发表于 2011-4-17 22:24:01 |显示全部楼层
在EVA1997年的剧场版The End of Evangelion中有一段著名的真人电影片段,在这段片段的最后,影片以极快的速度展示了一批来信和图片。这些信件和图片,一般被EVA研究者称为恐吓信。

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恐吓信的背景
在TV版25、26话制作过程的最后,由于先前对质量极度追求而造成的经费短缺,GAINAX不得不采用一些原始的方法来制作动画,这造成了质量上的严重问题。再加上大段的意识流描写、令人费解的对白以及情节上的突然变化,最后这两集被普遍批评。

在EVA的TV版播结束以后,GAINAX和庵野秀明收到了不计其数的信和电子邮件。其中许多是对他TV版最后两话的批评,包括“庵野秀明的最后两话把整个《EVA》给毁了”的批评,甚至还有死亡恐吓信( “我要杀了你,庵野!”)。

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庵野与Fans间的对立


庵野秀明和Fans间的对立也大致始于此。从庵野说过的话以及他的实际行为来看,无疑他是对沉迷EVA乃至动画的Otaku们充满了鄙视和不屑的。在《Animage》1996年7月号的访谈上,庵野如是说:

“在播放到中途时我终于开始讨厌那些动画迷了,最讨厌的就是那些死死抱着动画不放的那群人,本来电视节目不就是大家开心的娱乐嘛,这帮人好好地看不就成 了,结果却变得那么狂热,在我看来这帮人都太空虚了,居然会全身心沉迷在虚构出来的东西里还觉得很幸福,这种对自己没有任何好处的狂热已经是近乎病态了, 根本不明白这种幸福完全是建立在别人给予的基础上,自己却还对结局指手画脚,只要故事不是按照他们所设想的那样发展就愤怒抓狂,所以我觉得《EVA》那样 结束是为了他们好,我是在教育他们,不要过度地依赖这种自娱自乐,这个世界坐不会总是随心所欲地想要什么就有什么的。”

“这帮Fans把动画,至少是把我做的《EVA》当作逃避现实的避难所,我一想起来就十分不爽,这帮人认为我的动画里的一切都是要为了让他们能逃避痛苦的 现实生活,还说什么不可能回归现实,居然说我的动画是惟一的避难所,实在太不可理喻了,我不想这帮人就这样消极下去,所以才修改了原先的剧情。”

“我觉得和Otaku相关的产业就此会越来越堕落,这帮人实在太偏激自闭了,居然会因为《EVA》里有宫村优子在配音就去买录像带,除此之外就没有别的理由了。现在这类动画都是千篇一律讨好他们,动画迷这边也是以为世界都得围着他们转了!”

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旧世纪剧场版的诞生
正是由于这些来信,GAINAX在1997年开始了一个新的计划,将创作一个“真正”的EVA的结局。由于时间上很紧张,他们就在先于3月15日推出了《死与新生》。这个计划于当年7月19日完成,包括《Rebirth》的完整版本(即The End of Evangelion)。这个电影在日本创造了一千二百万的票房。

The End of Evangelion自公映起饱受争议。普遍来讲,The End of Evangelion的风格与TV版很难衔接,影片中有不少直接的暧昧片段,情节到达了极其血腥的程度,整部作品氛围异常压抑,让完全投入的观众产生末日、恐怖的感觉,影片以全部生命体失去肉体形态进入迪拉克海洋、完成第三次冲击结尾,让所有观众大跌眼镜。

有人认为该片是庵野对圣经启示录中世界末日的描述,他预言了人类自进入现代工业文明社会以来产生的种种罪恶有一天必将受到惩罚而自我终结;也有人认为The End of Evangelion是庵野在极端心理状态下对福音迷们攻击的报复。

另一方面,一些证据证明庵野的失望在早在TV版制作中途就产生了(上面的Animage访问也可说明此问题),而剧场版只是这种失望变为愤怒继而达到顶峰的一个表现。其中一个证据是:福音战士的风格自TV版第16话突然改变。这种风格的改变和庵野世界观的改变是一致的。这种世界观的改变使得庵野放弃了那种“御宅族的生活方式”,一段时间里使他的兴趣从动画转向真人电影。不过改变庵野世界观的原因仍是未知数。以后一段时间,他在 1998年拍摄了首部真人电影《狂恋高校生》,不过不久就返回一部26话动画《他与她的事情》的制作。

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事件的焦点——恐吓信
由今看来,恐吓信已成为当时事件的导火索。这些恐吓信无论是对EVA的剧情发展,还是对庵野的制作理念,无疑都产生了巨大的影响。我们有必要来弄清楚这些恐吓信(EoE中展示的部分)的内容究竟是什么,又包含了fans和庵野的怎样的怨念。
国外的一个以EVA为主题的维基网站 wiki.evageeks.org已经翻译了这部分信件,以下文字部分为转贴。转载原文地址http://wiki.evageeks.org/End_of_Evangelion_Death_Threats
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有争议的问题:
1.上文中引述的国外网站忽略了下面这张图片,它位于Letter11和Letter12间,显示的也是GAINAX的墙壁涂鸦。

2.文中的电子邮件地址、发件人和邮件内容在影片中被明文显示,即使是在1997年,是否会造成对当事人隐私的泄漏?
3.为何会出现三封文本内容相同,但笔记不同的信件(Letter01,02,03)?可能是狂热fans觉得一封信件已不能表达自己的热情,一连邮寄了几封?又或者是GAINAX为了追寻影片效果,故意作假凑数?
4.并非所有信件都是针对TV版25、26话发泄不满。上文中所有的电子邮件时间均在1997年3月17日至23日间。而死与新生的首映日期是1997年3月15日,从信件内容看,信件大多为Rebirth的观后感。
5.这些信件和照片的内容不完全是恐吓,诚然其中确实有很多露骨的恐吓,但也有一部分是抒发自己的怅惘之情以及对庵野和GAINAX的肯定和热忱的鼓励。
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对恐吓信的翻译,由于
1.原始邮件本身的残缺不全;
2.经过日→英→汉转译;
3.日译英的译者采用意译和大意的翻译方法,
使得我们在理解恐吓信内容时,产生很大困难。在此,也恳请熟悉日语的朋友,能指出本文翻译的不足。感谢。

注:本文转载部分源自wiki.evageeks.org。原文遵循 CC协议 署名-相同方式共享 3.0 Unported (CC BY-SA 3.0)。如果您对本文转载部分进行转载,请遵循原文的分享协议

Letter 16-23
















这8帧图像源自同一封信,下面的图片是由这8帧图片拼合而成.


Toshiki Ueyama

I went to see DEATH and REBIRTH Saturday night.
"Why did I even see this movie?", that was the impression I had when I went out of the theater.
Why, after I saw REBIRTH, were my teeth were chattering, and why was I shivering for nearly an hour?
I didn't understand why I was shivering, was it for something scarring or for something painful?
When I was on the train, returning home, I had that terrible painful feeling, but also at the same time, happiness started to grow inside of me.
Perhaps the shivering was a way to express all those confusing feelings of fear and euphoria.
Regarding to Hideaki Anno's mentality (meaning, Evangelion) I feel terrified, but at the same time I felt like I could identify with it too.
About the movie's contents - it is just amazing.
The animation's quality, isn't it the best animation now?
However, the way in which is shown in the director's cut the human's fragility was very painful.
I could feel the pain of the TV series again. I could feel inside my heart the feelings inside Hideaki Annoís heart.
So in my heart, I sympathized with "I'm not alone. To feel loneliness is better." I still feel a strange sensation even after watching the movie, because of these two opposite feelings mixing in myself.
I'm waiting for the summer to see "End of Evangelion", and I know that that will be even more painful, but I will feel happy and enjoy it.
I don't think that there are many people who feel this way, but in my case, EVA made me think about myself and was like a mirror of myself.
People of the staff, do your best with the summer movie, and good luck!!
And until then, show us a "painful" and "happy" movie!!!

Translator's Note: Since is a whole letter split in 3 parts, I translated like a whole thing which was more easy, since some parts were twice between the parts.

﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋

Letter 24

Anno, I'll kill you!!!

﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋
Translator:Unknown

Translator's Note: I felt exactly the same way as #24 after encoding this eva-madness for over a year now.



On the left wall: Sex, ********
On the front wall: rapeman
Over Gainax shop announce: Die

Note: The previous letters were close-ups of the graffiti shown here

﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋

Letter 12

Translator's Note: Letter 07 and Letter 12 are the same but together are kinda complete, even so there are missing parts. Due to this, is very difficult to be translated, because it seems to have no sense. But this email is about the graffiti in Gainax's wall and the guy seems to be laughing about this, and about some religious groups and fans that maybe were the ones who made this paintings.


译者注:第7封信和第12封信源于相同内容,但即便将两封信拼合起来,仍然遗失了部分内容而无法翻译。信的内容大致与Gainax墙上的涂鸦相关,信中似乎正嘲笑此事,并且涂鸦者好像也与一些宗教团体和信徒有关。以下是Letter07和Letter12的拼合图像:

﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋

Letter 13

AT Field 03/23, 7:05
(Ikid3655@mb.infoterm.ne.jp)
Gainax made a terrible work!!!
It's also pathetic.
I've been waiting since the summer for something like this?!
Please, make it for the Golden Week.


Translator's Note: This email is very difficult to be translated. This guy wrote in the most lower level of Japanese, he has some orthographic errors and sometimes I don't know if he is congratulating to Gainax or if he is just insulting them. And when he mentioned the Golden Week, he is talking about a whole week of holidays in Japan in May. He must be talking about one of the movies, and asking that the premiere could be in the Golden Week.

译者注:这封email很难译,信是用很初级的日语写的,有些语法错误,有时我都不知道对Gainax是褒是贬。当他谈及黄金周时,他谈了5月份在日本整周的假期。而且他应该谈到了一部电影,希望首映能安排在黄金周。
转载者注:日本也是有黄金周的,具体可参见:http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh/%E9%BB%84%E9%87%91%E5%91%A8_%28%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%29

Rentaruya 03/23, 6:07 (amada@mxp.meshnet.or.jp)

Amazing!!!
What a great production of REBIRTH!! Even many days after I saw the movie, I still cannot stop thinking about it, this really astounded me!!!
This movie really develops a very deep and serious theme.
Shinji's falls into despair and Asuka's arrogance appears to be some sort of escape from the darkness in her heart.
These people have difficulties in dealing with their feelings; and so in their own ways -- Shinji by totally collapsing and falling apart,
and Asuka by letting her arrogance cover up her inner weakness -- they each work towards the same goal: to come to terms with themselves.

Translator's Note: the last part, after Asuka's sentences, is the general idea, is like the guy is seeing in Shinji and Asuka, two examples of escaping from reality with two different ways of do it. One falling apart and the other avoiding her own darkness. But at the end both of them have the same expectations. Just in case it became a little confuse ;D, btw isn't a literal translation, I'm trying to take the main idea because that last sentence was difficult to explain in English in a literal way.

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Letter 14

POW 03/23, 11:47
(t-adachi@nisouiq.net)

Is Gainax able to maintain their business?
REBIRTH ends in the middle, and since the beginning I couldnít even understand it. Continuing <cut> don't make us have those dark expectations (*).
That's what I'd consider being successful in their work. But I think that not creating expectations is like a crime.
Anyway, since this was released, Gainax has become well-known in the anime world. This time <cut> I'd like it. (*)
I'm 16 years old, young, and talented, and this movie made me think about life and the meaning of our existence, and when I thought about this <cut>

Translator's Note: The (*) means that some part of text is missing, due to the fact that in the pic there was a cut part. Due to this I can't fully translate the last part since I'm missing the whole meaning.

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Letter 15

The Tokumei 03/17, 6:54

When I saw this movie, I knew Evangelion for the first time.
When I looked at the main characters, I could see my high school self in them.
I think that this anime has a lot of fascinating things, but the one that affects me the most is the main character's mysterious charm.
I feel that the main thing that this movie teaches us is about the importance of being honest with our own lives.
Today I started to find a lot of meaning inside Evangelion.
After seeing this, I have a lot of expectations for the other movie.

Haruhito Nomura 03/19, 1:08

It was too long.
My true mental state has various thoughts all mixed together, and this doesn't allow me to think properly.
This movie made me think about myself and really feel the emotions that are deep in my heart.

I'm waiting for the next movie. Good luck and please make it your best!!!

﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋


Letter 02

(Is the same text as in Letter 1 but with different calligraphy.)

(文本内容与第一封信相同,但笔记不同)

﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋

Letter 03


(Is the same text as in Letter 1 right side but with different calligraphy.)

(文本内容与第一封信右侧相同,但笔记不同)

﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋

Letter 04

(Is the same pic as Letter 3)

转载者注:此处存在疑问,Letter 03与04并非相同图片。

﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋

Letter 05

<cut> I also felt inside myself the same excitement that Shinji felt.
The last scenes made me appreciate my own existence even more.
The feelings of the very last scene parallel the feelings of the main character, Shinji.

<cut> everybody was finally witnessing <cut> EVA's last moments.

﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋

Letter 06

<cut> that's how I feel.

Thanks to Mr. Anno and all the staff for helping to liberate our hearts and souls, and for all of these feelings. Thank you very much.

﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋

Letter 07

<cut> Studying the grafitti, how is it possible that it says that?
<cut> it seems that some religious group
<cut> I'm not aware of my own evil <cut>


Note: This is possibly Anno or one of the staff commenting on the graffiti on the walls outside of Gainax's studio.
转载者注:参见Letter12的说明。
﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋
Letter 08

Tenchuu: Heaven's punishment (well deserved)

﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋

Letter 09

Rapeman

Translator's Note: I can't understand the first kanji, is written in a way that is very difficult to be read.

﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋

Letter 10

Die


The Death Threats Sequence

This is a translation of the letters, emails, and graffiti that quickly flashed (about one per frame) at the end of the live action sequence in the second half of End of Evangelion. These were commonly referred to as Death Threats (or hate mail) probably because some of them do indeed sound like death threats. However, most of the letters and emails showed genuine appreciation and, in some cases, praise and encouragement/anticipation towards the End of Evangelion.

Note: In certain places, <cut> is used because the on-screen text was cut-off and could not be translated.

﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋﹋
Letter 01

After seeing "Evangelion" I felt very impressed, so I somehow sent this letter. I'm a middle school student like Shinji.
First of all, I saw Eva and now it seems like I truly recognize myself, and this feeling is because of Eva. I want to say thank you for this.
Why do I say this? To explain it would take a while, but Shinji and I are alike; depressed and helpless and introverted.
I remember watching Eva and seeing Shinji being worried and troubled and I felt the same in my heart. In "EVA",
there was an analysis that said how Shinji couldn't run away from the pain or the unpleasant feelings that were attached,
and I have felt like this way too. At the beginning, I really like it <cut> that's why this anime gives me that light feeling <cut>
but gradually Ms. Ogata <cut>
In the last scene on TV, Shinji accepts everyone and they all congratulate him; that was a very nice end and I felt very happy.
Another friend <cut> that last scene <cut>
This year I graduate from middle school, and now my focus is on being a high school student, and so that's why I'll now make my best effort.
I'm going to see the EVA movie. I'm worried about what will happen to Shinji in the movie (but I like the last scene on the TV series a lot).
And thanks to EVA, I've started like myself and that has made me very happy. <cut> Mr. Anno, please keep working on EVA a lot more.

<cut> and thank you so much for everything!!

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 群星的庇护-双鱼座 神选者徽记 守护者徽记 求索者徽记 冒险者徽记 旅行者徽记 光之洗礼

史东 发表于 2011-4-17 23:30:29 |显示全部楼层
晕 好长的一段。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。

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位面旅行者

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z734816240 发表于 2011-4-18 14:51:53 |显示全部楼层
可惜啊,如果是中文就更好了。
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庵野居然敢这样说我们这些对于漫画的爱,太可耻了,祝福他被恐吓信淹没吧!

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通用语研究所 光之洗礼

云端的枫叶 发表于 2011-4-19 00:49:23 |显示全部楼层
回复 1# 沙拔


    哈哈哈哈哈哈~~~~~~
  
    不知道别人怎么看,但是庵野说fans的话,我看了笑死了~~~
    我喜欢他的评论。

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orgsun 发表于 2011-5-30 22:51:31 |显示全部楼层
诸位好,我是本文的作者。
在这里被转载的版本,并非本文的最终版本。
如果您对本文所述内容感兴趣,请移步至我的博客:
orgsun.blogspot.com/2011/05/end-of-evangelion.html(墙外)
查看这篇文章的最新版本。

最后感谢LZ对我的这篇小文的关注,以及对EVA的关注。谢谢。

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沙拔 发表于 2011-5-31 11:14:35 |显示全部楼层
诸位好,我是本文的作者。
在这里被转载的版本,并非本文的最终版本。
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orgsun 发表于 2011-5-30 22:51

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萧恩 发表于 2011-5-31 12:36:38 |显示全部楼层
庵野那段对FANS的评论我也很喜欢啊……

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